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  Witnessing to athiests

  by zound in

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  can't seem to find anything about this in the reasoning book.

  what do jehovah's witnesses usually say / instructed to say to try and get athiests interesteds in joining?.

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  Use the suggested presentation for Scientologists and simply omit all references to Xenu.
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  if you had a miraculous, unexplained escape from death..

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  plus you were not baptised but grew up in a jw family, stopped attending or studying for 30 years then attempted to go back for a couple years.

  the attempt had serious negative effects on your marriage, and personality, so you decided to stop all studies etc, for the time being ( over a year).

  but with the full intention to return later and be baptised.. this miraculous, unexplained escape from death was discovered to have occured during this time of complete detachment from studies etc.. what would you feel explained this escape?

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  Nonjwspouse, I can understand your desire for anonymity, but do you really feel that giving us the barest possible description of your husband's situation would reveal your identity to all the world?

  Did he have flames coming out of his ears? Was a family of bears found to be living in his thorax? Was he farting assteroids?

  Maybe what your husband experienced wasn't such a big deal and you prefer to give it a little hint of mystery. Hmmm?

  Something really super-terrific happened to me once too, but I'm not going to tell you what it was.
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  New Book Published

  by satinka in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been threatening to publish a book about growing up in the jw religion, then leaving as a mature adult.

  well, it's 368 pages and it's done!.

  introduction to the book.

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  Nathan Natas

  We will be interested in hearing about how your experience in the world of XJW publishing goes. Good luck!
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  It's yime for an introduction

  by HowTheBibleWasInvented in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking a month or two and letting out a comment here and there.a few weeks ago someone asked if i had formally introduced myself.

  i was born and raised a witness.

  i always found meetings borning and family studies so bad.

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  HTBWI confessed:

  I had to struggle for over a month with a terrifying concept. I WOULD DIE and that WOULD BE IT! Evento this day it streaks terror into me. However since then I realized that this century has the potential for inventing computers capable of storing the memories of us so its a small relief.

  If you think about sometime in the distant past before you were born - let's use 666 A.D. - do you feel fear and dread?

  I'll guess you don't.

  When you die - and sooner or later you WILL die - you will not exist, just as you didn't exist in 666 A.D. There's nothing to fear and thhere will be no "you" to experience anything.

  So chillax! Don't waste your todays worrying about a tomorrow of which you will be unaware.
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  Need Advice On Shunning My Dying Dad, Please Advise!

  by AuntConnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear jwn,.

  when i was out in field service yesterday i was approached by some sisters asking me how my dying dad was doing.

  i said "i try not to visit him, you will have to ask him yourself.

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  I've added AuntConnie to my ignore list.
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  Is Richard Dawkins giving atheists a bad name?

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. current

  he just can't seem to stop himself taunting "these muslims" or "some muslim or other".

  among his favourite taunts are:.

  "all the world's muslims have fewer nobel prizes than trinity college, cambridge.".

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  The mulla's evaluation of books of learning: ""If those books are in agreement with the Quran, we have no need of them; and if these are opposed to the Quran, destroy them."

  ...sounds so Watchtower-y to me.
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  Now that Gays can legally get married, if one of the gay couple want to become a JW would he or she have to get a divorce?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i remember years ago maybe 20 years ago an elder or co was giving a talk on armaggeddon and he said that we know we are close to the end when homosexuals get the same rights as straight people.

  he said jehovah would never allow gay people to marry because it would be an abomination and he would do the same as sodom and gommorrah.

  what if a member of a gay couple decides to become a jws would he or she have to get a divorce?.

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  Hortensia is correct, the WTB&TS is no supporter of gay rights.

  If I recall correctly, the official WT position is that a gay person can serve Jehovah as long as they remain celibate.

  So unless the marriage is just so you have a partner for tennis, it is off-limits.
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  Atheist Support

  by snare&racket in

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  Or, you can check behind you and see if you've evolved a SPINE.
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  YouTube: Dub impressions by Kyria Abrahams

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. social
  2. humour

  four years ago kyria published her book,"i'm perfect, you're doomed".

  she's got a bunch of impressions on youtube of people you'll probably remember from yout kingdom hall.. she's got a bunch of these.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xjtb85nc6o.

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  Four years ago Kyria published her book,"I'M PERFECT, YOU'RE DOOMED"

  She's got a bunch of impressions on YouTube of people you'll probably remember from yout Kingdom Hall.

  She's got a bunch of these...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XJtB85nC6o
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  Is Richard Dawkins giving atheists a bad name?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  he just can't seem to stop himself taunting "these muslims" or "some muslim or other".

  among his favourite taunts are:.

  "all the world's muslims have fewer nobel prizes than trinity college, cambridge.".

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  The Muslim world is often given credit for keeping learning alive during the Dark Ages, and Muslims are happy to take that credit.

  What made the Dark Ages so dark? In addition to the dearth of LED bulbs, it was also the fact that the Churches of Xtiandom were acting very much the way the Muslim world acts today. It is as if Muslims looked at the Dark Ages and thought, "y'know... we might be able to make this work."

  So mush for preserving knowledge, algebra and alchemy. As my former boss used to ask whenever I recited my list of last month's accomplishments, "Yeah, but what have you done for me lately?"

  Dawkins is correct to ask the Muslim worls, "What have you done for me lately?"

  ...and I would be PROUD to stand with Dawkins anyday! As an atheist, all flavors of intolerance and institutionalized ignorance are my enemy.